A brief message to the Sun City Anthem Board, G2G, and those in the community who believe the restaurant lease was a responsible decision:
Looking at Sun City Anthem through the eyes of its independent minded resident community.
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Monday, August 27, 2018
There's No Better Way to Say It...Regarding the Sun City Anthem Restaurant Deal !
A brief message to the Sun City Anthem Board, G2G, and those in the community who believe the restaurant lease was a responsible decision:
10 comments:
Keith,
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IF that restaurant is an amenity and compared to the others as you have done, and the restaurant is open to the public, why shouldn't all the others be open as well?
Please explain the difference.
Are you really going to say this "deal" is in the best financial interests of Sun City Anthem? Free everything?
If so, please explain.
Regarding your opening comment about people wanting a restaurant, how have you based your belief? On a meeting with less than 1% of the community?
If you believe most people want one, would you object to a community vote on the issue? If not, why not?From Patricia Yeamen...to...Anthem Opinions
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Email sent to Sun City Anthem Board:
SCA Board Members:
Please tell me this new proposed lease agreement with G2G is your idea of an ill-fated joke! It is like the Board members who voted for this new contract are thumbing their noses at our residents and saying, “I’ll show you! You want a restaurant—we’ll give it to you!” You’re giving it to us, all right! But it isn’t a responsible contract with a potentially successful restaurant! You’re giving us the SHAFT!
I’ve been reading all the responses to the information on your idea of a financially responsible lease and another attempt at a restaurant here in Anthem. The responses have been from intelligent, educated, experienced residents, who appear to know and understand the financial disaster this new contract could (and most likely would) create. We desperately need responsible Board members who are willing to serve the best interests of our community residents—to serve with integrity and loyalty to the community, not as so many of you, our current Board members, who’s own self-serving interests for whatever kick-backs or other perks you may be receiving, are producing such financially irresponsible contracts! Certainly most of you are NOT serving for praise and respect from our community! Anyone with even the slightest amount of intelligence and common sense could not praise and respect those who would enter into such a despicable, ridiculous contract as the one with G2G!
Aside from the totally irresponsible, expensive, community-dividing contract as stated with G2G, the sad part about this contract is that anyone with a limited amount of business experience or education can see the potential financial disaster this contract could cause our HOA! I would love to have a small coffee shop in our Anthem facility where I could go for a sandwich or piece of pie or light dinner after cards, or exercising, but NOT under the conditions as set forth! I’d love to take a short drive up to the restaurant on any given day or evening for a reasonably-priced meal, but NOT at the risk of having this ridiculous contract cause financial loss not only to our HOA, but to the individual residents of our community! Some of our residents are just barely getting by on sparse income now, and the increase in dues that would certainly accompany this contract could cause a serious financial hardship to these residents. This community has not been advertised as a “wealthy” community or a community for wealthy and financially secure residents who love to throw their money out the window, if they choose! We are a community of seniors from various financial, racial, ethnic, and religious backgrounds! The amenities were originally designed for ALL residents—not those who have money to spare and to waste on the whims of a financially irresponsible group of people, you, who sit on our Board and claim to be making responsible decisions for the good of the community. To that, I say, “Bah Humbug!”
I literally get sick just thinking about how you (with two exceptions) take such pride in sticking knives in our backs! But how can we get you off your “high horses” and stop the insanity? Hopefully during the next elections, we can find some morally adept people who possess the integrity and common sense to run and be voted into office to stop this merry-go-round and get us headed onto a fiscally responsible path! I pity you who don’t have the moral aptitude to make good, responsible decisions on behalf of our community, or are so adept at following-the-leader, that you cannot do your homework and make your own decisions based on what is right and what is totally wrong!I have been reading this Blog for a looooong time. It's a BLOG with NO action. Isn't there ONE person, former attorney, property manager, real estate retiree, or knowledgeable blogger person to lead a meeting??? I would do it in a heartbeat if I had the knowledge to preside over such a group, but I don't. Let me say right now all we are doing is READING a BLOG. We are doing NOTHING. Our community is not organized thus we are LETTING the Board run our community. As far as I am concerned, we made our choice.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you.
As I said in a previous article, complicity is a death knell to Sun City Anthem, and it plays right into the hands of the "machine" and their self interest controlling ways.
All I can do is bring it to the attention of the community.
The community itself must come forward and make the difference.
I can tell you that between the unethical manner in which the removal election was handled, the Darcy Spears report, the "machine" individuals chosen as the "rent a directors", and this crazy restaurant decision, I have never witnessed such dislike and distrust for any Board like the past few we've had to endure.
I do know that we have a large number of owners in Sun City Anthem becoming increasingly aware of this mess as witnessed by the rapid increase of Anthem Opinions subscribers and the many calls I have received similar to your comments.
If the right group of good quality individuals will come forward next spring...
(I can assure you that work is being done to recruit them, and volunteers are always welcome)
...with winning 4 Board Seats, we could take control of this place and life as it now exists, would END.
I could see a restaurant lease NOT RENEWED without proper vetting and THEIR MONEY to finance it, change of Community Management giving the owners their property back without ridiculous rules, and the immediate termination of the agreement with the Association attorney.
Hang in there, Patricia.
Change is in the air with your help and that of others who CARE about their neighborhood.
Giving up means THEY WIN. Don't ever forget that.From Eugene Demeter...to...Anthem Opinions
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Bad financial decision by incompetent individuals.
Amazing how the people of Sun City Anthem can be led to believe this restaurant is a good decision and stand by and let the board force it on the community.
We will all be paying for this mistake for a long time.Marilyn,
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A great suggestion, especially after what we went through with the last restaurant and the Board "giving in" to a restaurant operator and forgiving his outstanding $40,000 in loans that the then SCA Board granted him (at 2% interest) when there was fear that a guy who hadn't paid any rent or utilities, claiming he was broke, was somehow going to come up with $350-$500 per hour to sue us.
That was and IS the mentality of this bunch.
How do you spell naive?
S T U P I D
And who on that Board voted to go along with that stupidity?
Rex Weddle
Does the apple fall from the "Financial Expert" tree?
Who voted for Weddle as the previous president of SCA?
Tom Nissen
Aletta Waterhouse
Arthur Lindberg
Forrest Quinn
Bob Burch
And then which members of the most recent "Financial Guru Club" voted for him as Vice President?
Candice Karrow
James Coleman
Patricia Carrell
Arthur LIndberg
Forrest Quinn
Aletta Waterhouse
Good cals, don't ya think ?
I think you're wrong on your position on the restaurant.
I think we want one, and we can pay for it and enjoy, just like we want and pay for pools and equipment.
IF that restaurant is an amenity and compared to the others as you have done, and the restaurant is open to the public, why shouldn't all the others be open as well?
Please explain the difference.
Are you really going to say this "deal" is in the best financial interests of Sun City Anthem? Free everything?
If so, please explain.
Regarding your opening comment about people wanting a restaurant, how have you based your belief? On a meeting with less than 1% of the community?
If you believe most people want one, would you object to a community vote on the issue? If not, why not?
Those who hate people telling the truth, are those who are living a lie!
Email sent to Sun City Anthem Board:
SCA Board Members:
Please tell me this new proposed lease agreement with G2G is your idea of an ill-fated joke! It is like the Board members who voted for this new contract are thumbing their noses at our residents and saying, “I’ll show you! You want a restaurant—we’ll give it to you!” You’re giving it to us, all right! But it isn’t a responsible contract with a potentially successful restaurant! You’re giving us the SHAFT!
I’ve been reading all the responses to the information on your idea of a financially responsible lease and another attempt at a restaurant here in Anthem. The responses have been from intelligent, educated, experienced residents, who appear to know and understand the financial disaster this new contract could (and most likely would) create. We desperately need responsible Board members who are willing to serve the best interests of our community residents—to serve with integrity and loyalty to the community, not as so many of you, our current Board members, who’s own self-serving interests for whatever kick-backs or other perks you may be receiving, are producing such financially irresponsible contracts! Certainly most of you are NOT serving for praise and respect from our community! Anyone with even the slightest amount of intelligence and common sense could not praise and respect those who would enter into such a despicable, ridiculous contract as the one with G2G!
Aside from the totally irresponsible, expensive, community-dividing contract as stated with G2G, the sad part about this contract is that anyone with a limited amount of business experience or education can see the potential financial disaster this contract could cause our HOA! I would love to have a small coffee shop in our Anthem facility where I could go for a sandwich or piece of pie or light dinner after cards, or exercising, but NOT under the conditions as set forth! I’d love to take a short drive up to the restaurant on any given day or evening for a reasonably-priced meal, but NOT at the risk of having this ridiculous contract cause financial loss not only to our HOA, but to the individual residents of our community! Some of our residents are just barely getting by on sparse income now, and the increase in dues that would certainly accompany this contract could cause a serious financial hardship to these residents. This community has not been advertised as a “wealthy” community or a community for wealthy and financially secure residents who love to throw their money out the window, if they choose! We are a community of seniors from various financial, racial, ethnic, and religious backgrounds! The amenities were originally designed for ALL residents—not those who have money to spare and to waste on the whims of a financially irresponsible group of people, you, who sit on our Board and claim to be making responsible decisions for the good of the community. To that, I say, “Bah Humbug!”
I literally get sick just thinking about how you (with two exceptions) take such pride in sticking knives in our backs! But how can we get you off your “high horses” and stop the insanity? Hopefully during the next elections, we can find some morally adept people who possess the integrity and common sense to run and be voted into office to stop this merry-go-round and get us headed onto a fiscally responsible path! I pity you who don’t have the moral aptitude to make good, responsible decisions on behalf of our community, or are so adept at following-the-leader, that you cannot do your homework and make your own decisions based on what is right and what is totally wrong!
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
As I said in a previous article, complicity is a death knell to Sun City Anthem, and it plays right into the hands of the "machine" and their self interest controlling ways.
All I can do is bring it to the attention of the community.
The community itself must come forward and make the difference.
I can tell you that between the unethical manner in which the removal election was handled, the Darcy Spears report, the "machine" individuals chosen as the "rent a directors", and this crazy restaurant decision, I have never witnessed such dislike and distrust for any Board like the past few we've had to endure.
I do know that we have a large number of owners in Sun City Anthem becoming increasingly aware of this mess as witnessed by the rapid increase of Anthem Opinions subscribers and the many calls I have received similar to your comments.
If the right group of good quality individuals will come forward next spring...
(I can assure you that work is being done to recruit them, and volunteers are always welcome)
...with winning 4 Board Seats, we could take control of this place and life as it now exists, would END.
I could see a restaurant lease NOT RENEWED without proper vetting and THEIR MONEY to finance it, a change of Community Management giving the owners their property back without ridiculous rules, and the immediate termination of the agreement with the Association attorney.
Hang in there, Patricia.
Change is in the air with your help and that of others who CARE about their neighborhood.
Giving up means THEY WIN. Don't ever forget that.
Bad financial decision by incompetent individuals.
Amazing how the people of Sun City Anthem can be led to believe this restaurant is a good decision and stand by and let the board force it on the community.
We will all be paying for this mistake for a long time.
This clause should be included in any restaurant lease.
That they do not have the right to come back and sue us if the restaurant does not live up to our expectations.
(hold harmless)
A great suggestion, especially after what we went through with the last restaurant and the Board "giving in" to a restaurant operator and forgiving his outstanding $40,000 in loans that the then SCA Board granted him (at 2% interest) when there was fear that a guy who hadn't paid any rent or utilities, claiming he was broke, was somehow going to come up with $350-$500 per hour to sue us.
That was and IS the mentality of this bunch.
How do you spell naive?
S T U P I D
And who on that Board voted to go along with that stupidity?
Rex Weddle
Does the apple fall from the "Financial Expert" tree?
Who voted for Weddle as the previous president of SCA?
Tom Nissen
Aletta Waterhouse
Arthur Lindberg
Forrest Quinn
Bob Burch
And then which members of the most recent "Financial Guru Club" voted for him as Vice President?
Candice Karrow
James Coleman
Patricia Carrell
Arthur LIndberg
Forrest Quinn
Aletta Waterhouse
Good calls, don't ya think ?