Thank you, Nelson Orth, for this morning’s new option for a restaurant.
It separates those that want a restaurant, and those few that do. It permits those that do the privilege of paying for them to enjoy.
Surely not unlike joining a club here in Anthem.
It also unburdens those who couldn’t care less about a restaurant here in Anthem.
As I once asked:
How much per square foot do the people who expect everyone else to pay for their folly?
What is “the breakout” for a profit, no matter how small To keep increasing costs down?
All of the cost associated with having a restaurant (again) would fall on the privileged folks that are willing to say, “this is mine, and I pay for it!”
So much more to consider regarding this idea, but suffice it to say, “what a wonderful idea.”
If proponents can't get at least 300 individuals out of a population of about 11,000 to 13,000 in 7,144 homes (only 4% of all homes in the community) to commit to any expenditure, what does that say?
It says to us is what was said by Director Rana Goodman in a restaurant work shop when candidate Wendy Linow blurted out "Who wants a restaurant?"
When Goodman responded "Who wants to pay for it?" the hands dropped substantially in the audience.
What I think should be done BEFORE any detailed survey, is for the Board to send out a statement asking for a SIGNED commitment of $1,000 per year (using Nelson's Anthem Country Club numbers) in addition to their regular quarterly assessments), also stating that any profit would reduce future "club dues" or any loss, would increase it.
In addition, as a token of good faith, the association might even kick in a few bucks toward equipment, utensils, and linens that would be OWNED by the association, and provided "rent free" to the social club, along with a small space to operate.
However any equipment repairs or laundered linens would be the responsibility of the respective social club along with accounting fees, employee payroll and benefits associated with it.The 300 number @ $1,000 per home represents THE $300,000 COMMITMENT REQUIRED for initial investment as stated in the original Board presentation; the number that was originally "sold" to the community, and considered accurate by Board members Arthur Scheutz, James Coleman, David Weil, along with Board President Candace Karrow (running for reelection), and further endorsed by Paul Perstein and Wendy Lenow as to its accuracy.
Actually, think about it.....if they couldn't get even 300 "hot shots" to make any financial commitment that would cover the costs, even providing them a private club to do so, what does that say about the possibility of anything other than committing association financial suicide?
It merely says, if you want it, then pay for it, and if you don't, it's all theirs to subsidize.I think many of us "peasants" would gladly go elsewhere, and would bow to them for PAYING THE FULL BOAT.
We could even give them a plaque with their members name engraved as well !
From Nelson Orth...Sun City Anthem Board Candidate...to...Anthem Opinions
Yesterday I received an email and phone call reminding me that the foundation for a club residing in one of our centers has already been laid.
The Computer Club, The Sewing Club, and Woodchips are just three examples of clubs that are in either Anthem Center or Independence Center, and all have flourished and made significant contributions to our association.
While the option of a self-managed "Social Club" restaurant requires significant (perhaps even massive) start up revenue in comparison to the either clubs previously mentioned, the fact that SCA knows the process to commence such discussions is, in my opinion, a significant factor.
What a great way for “those “ who want their beloved restaurant can do it with the blessings of the homeowners who do not want a restaurant and would consider other forms for the facility.
It takes the SOCIALISM out of the equation and puts it purely on the backs of the restaurateur owners.
They truly can relish in their new ownership of something they have relished for a long time.
As to the person known as Linow…she scares me.
Her track record of failures and social blunders in life would bring ruin on this community.
Her insane ideas that have never worked in the past, would once more prove they don’t work in the future.
While I truly wish her the best in her life, it becomes:
From Marty Winger...to...Anthem Opinions
ReplyDeleteThank you, Nelson Orth, for this morning’s new option for a restaurant.
It separates those that want a restaurant, and those few that do. It permits those that do the privilege of paying for them to enjoy.
Surely not unlike joining a club here in Anthem.
It also unburdens those who couldn’t care less about a restaurant here in Anthem.
As I once asked:
How much per square foot do the people who expect everyone else to pay for their folly?
What is “the breakout” for a profit, no matter how small To keep increasing costs down?
All of the cost associated with having a restaurant (again) would fall on the privileged folks that are willing to say, “this is mine, and I pay for it!”
So much more to consider regarding this idea, but suffice it to say, “what a wonderful idea.”
Marty, it made a lot of sense to us as well.
ReplyDeleteThink about it ?
If proponents can't get at least 300 individuals out of a population of about 11,000 to 13,000 in 7,144 homes (only 4% of all homes in the community) to commit to any expenditure, what does that say?
It says to us is what was said by Director Rana Goodman in a restaurant work shop when candidate Wendy Linow blurted out "Who wants a restaurant?"
When Goodman responded "Who wants to pay for it?" the hands dropped substantially in the audience.
What I think should be done BEFORE any detailed survey, is for the Board to send out a statement asking for a SIGNED commitment of $1,000 per year (using Nelson's Anthem Country Club numbers) in addition to their regular quarterly assessments), also stating that any profit would reduce future "club dues" or any loss, would increase it.
In addition, as a token of good faith, the association might even kick in a few bucks toward equipment, utensils, and linens that would be OWNED by the association, and provided "rent free" to the social club, along with a small space to operate.
However any equipment repairs or laundered linens would be the responsibility of the respective social club along with accounting fees, employee payroll and benefits associated with it.The 300 number @ $1,000 per home represents THE $300,000 COMMITMENT REQUIRED for initial investment as stated in the original Board presentation; the number that was originally "sold" to the community, and considered accurate by Board members Arthur Scheutz, James Coleman, David Weil, along with Board President Candace Karrow (running for reelection), and further endorsed by Paul Perstein and Wendy Lenow as to its accuracy.
Actually, think about it.....if they couldn't get even 300 "hot shots" to make any financial commitment that would cover the costs, even providing them a private club to do so, what does that say about the possibility of anything other than committing association financial suicide?
It merely says, if you want it, then pay for it, and if you don't, it's all theirs to subsidize.I think many of us "peasants" would gladly go elsewhere, and would bow to them for PAYING THE FULL BOAT.
We could even give them a plaque with their members name engraved as well !
From Nelson Orth...Sun City Anthem Board Candidate...to...Anthem Opinions
ReplyDeleteYesterday I received an email and phone call reminding me that the foundation for a club residing in one of our centers has already been laid.
The Computer Club, The Sewing Club, and Woodchips are just three examples of clubs that are in either Anthem Center or Independence Center, and all have flourished and made significant contributions to our association.
While the option of a self-managed "Social Club" restaurant requires significant (perhaps even massive) start up revenue in comparison to the either clubs previously mentioned, the fact that SCA knows the process to commence such discussions is, in my opinion, a significant factor.
From Marty Winger...to...Anthem Opinions
ReplyDeleteHi Dick,
Once again, I just love this concept!
What a great way for “those “ who want their beloved restaurant can do it with the blessings of the homeowners who do not want a restaurant and would consider other forms for the facility.
It takes the SOCIALISM out of the equation and puts it purely on the backs of the restaurateur owners.
They truly can relish in their new ownership of something they have relished for a long time.
As to the person known as Linow…she scares me.
Her track record of failures and social blunders in life would bring ruin on this community.
Her insane ideas that have never worked in the past, would once more prove they don’t work in the future.
While I truly wish her the best in her life, it becomes:
“Do your thing, but NOT on me.”