Sun City Anthem

Tuesday, October 17, 2017

Newest Community Blog Tells It Like It Is ! (Part One of Two)

Discarded Sun City Anthem Board Member
Nona Tobin
Speaks Out in Newest Community Blog
(Part One of Two)


May of you are aware of the unconscionable treatment by which the Sun City Anthem Board maliciously took it upon themselves to remove Nona Tobin and subsequently replace her.

Nona Tobin has recently established a web site / blog that we HIGHLY recommend you subscribe to and read on a regular basis.

It provides the community information from one who has experienced the wrath of a fellow Board who have demonstrated they care little about Nevada law.

The web site is called "SCA Strong" and we highly recommend you subscribing to this FREE newest and informative piece for the benefit of Sun City Anthem residents.

SCA Strong

Here is an excerpt from a recent article published.

"On October 3rd many of you received an email from Bob Goldfried regarding his opinion on the upcoming recall ballot. I would like to take this time to address Mr. Goldfried’s objections.

First, let me state that there is a reason that a recall election process is in place. Just as the election process allows the residents of this community to have a voice in how the community is managed, it also allows that voice to be heard if they feel it is being mismanaged.

In addition, the recall election process SHOULD also prevent the Board from arbitrarily removing another Board Member. However, as many of you know, the current Board unjustly and illegally removed me from my position without a vote of the owners that elected me.

Regardless of what happened to me, the required number of members of this community have legally filed petitions to recall three of the current Board Members and therefore, the Community has the right to vote on those petitions. My goal is to promote a fair system that will ensure that owners’ votes count, and that Sun City Anthem has a board that acts lawfully to ensure fair equitable treatment of all owners.

The following (in italics) is the letter sent out by Mr. Goldfried. 

I will in turn address each of his comments with my own opinion on the subject below each excerpt, and leave you to make your own decision.
“By now you have received a ballot in the mail regarding a recall of three SCA HOA board members. During the four years that I’ve lived in Sun City Anthem, it has become apparent to me that our HOA board members are elected in free and fair elections, open to any candidate who decides to run. We have an election every year, in May, alternately for three or four of the seven board member positions. If homeowners do not support current board members, those homeowners have been, and continue to be, free to find candidates who they do support, and to vote for those candidates, in duly held regularly scheduled annual elections. For that reason alone I am opposed to the recall, quite independent of who is currently on the board.”

Why should owners not use the legal removal election process if more than 10% of the owners legally call for it?

The law governing how volunteers are annually elected to HOA boards also specifically defines the only lawful way elected directors can be removed – by an owner vote. 

 For the reasons mentioned, the removal of a director is higher bar than getting elected in the first place.

NRS 116.31036 (1) 

“…any member of the executive board, other than a member appointed by the declarant, may be removed from the executive board, with or without cause, if at a removal election held pursuant to this section, the number of votes cast in favor of removal constitutes:

(a) At least 35 percent of the total number of voting members of the association; and

(b) At least a majority of all votes cast in that removal election.

The lawful method for calling for a removal election is also specifically defined:

NRS 116.31036 (2)  

A removal election may be called by units’ owners constituting at least 10 percent, or any lower percentage specified in the bylaws, of the total number of voting members of the association.

Therefore, it is legally required to conduct a removal election if more than 10% of the owners call for one—whatever their reasons. 

Their right to do that is protected and should be respected even if their chance of success (even without active campaigning against it) is small.
“Moreover, the recall petitions do not allege any criminal conduct, fraud or other dishonesty, or gross abuse of discretion on the part of the three board members.”

This is not true. 

There are many recent complaints filed with the Ombudsman which are now assigned to NRED investigators. 

I filed four of them myself because of intolerable actions taken against me personally or that I observed being unfairly taken against other owners. 

(In 13 years living here, I have never before filed complaints with the state against the HOA.)

It is not surprising that you have the misconception that you do since there is active, full-on corruption of the official record to conceal what’s really going on in this community. 

This involves all the directors against whom petitions were signed. 

For example, the Board President and Secretary blocked a clear statement of my complaints from being placed on the agenda (as required by NRS 116.31087) and therefore dismissed my legal right as a unit owner. 

The Board Attorney also allowed six members of the Board to meet without me, the seventh (and supposedly equal), Director.
“While the law does not seem to require such culpable conduct as a prerequisite for recall, shouldn’t we, as responsible, mature people, require evidence of criminal conduct, fraud or other dishonesty, or gross abuse of discretion, before we take the extraordinary step of recalling fairly elected board members?”

This is a very well-reasoned argument and fully supports my claim that my removal from the Board on August 24 without notice or due process, and certainly not by 35% of the owners voting me off in a legally-mandated removal election was neither legal nor fair.

The six members of the Board took actions in secret against me without even hearing both sides of the issue, let alone indemnifying me or providing a defense or an open hearing, as requested and legally required. 

This unacceptable practice of deciding in executive session to take action against someone without giving them a chance to defend themselves is ALSO what happened when they decided to evict the Foundation Assisting Seniors. 

I would argue that those actions alone were “dishonest” and a “gross abuse of discretion.”
“Or are our annual elections simply a charade, a waste of time, subject to being reversed at the will of a dissatisfied minority, regardless of the merit of their claims?”

Having a removal election does not make the annual elections a charade at all. 

However, how I was removed certainly does.

Six members of the Board secretly voted to remove me from the Board seat that 2,001 owners had elected me to fill just 116 days earlier. 

Doesn’t that look like they just thumbed their noses at the 2,001 owners who voted for me?
“Shouldn’t we, as responsible, mature people, require evidence of criminal conduct, fraud or other dishonesty, or gross abuse of discretion, before we take the extraordinary step of recalling fairly elected board members?”

You are right. 

They should not have kicked a Director off the Board without any evidence of wrongdoing, but they did.

The allegations that I was making a profit from my board position were patently false and beyond ludicrous, but more to the point of your argument, they should have produced some evidence, filed a complaint against me, and gotten a ruling from proper authority. 

But, they didn’t. 

They secretly decided based on no evidence that I was guilty and that they had the “fiduciary duty” to declare my board seat vacant immediately upon my being handed the notice of their action.


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Tomorrow...Part Two
  1. From John Turzer...to... Anthem Opinions

    Sun City Anthem is one of the top 55+ retirement communities nationwide. We have over 7,100 homes. My wife and I have lived here since 2006. Until 1/1/17 the quarterly HOA was a VERY LOW $250/quarter. There were 2, 3 times when the quarterly dues was waived. Wasn't there a problem a few years ago that we had too much money in the HOA?

    This year the dues went up about a $100 a year. Minimal given the size of our complex, the amenities and common areas.

    It appears that some residents are not happy with this increase.

    Name one thing that has not gone up since 2006. Our facilities and common areas are close to 20 years old.

    Things break, wear out and become outdated.

    First class amenities ate one of the reasons our home values are high and Sun City Anthem is a highly desirable destination with a low inventory of homes for sale.

    Secondly a decision was made about 2 years ago to discontinue using a third party management company and "self manage". While I am not a proponent of this change fearing that the board would micro manage the general manager I am very happy with the professionalism of our GM and enjoy reading her monthly reports. Much more detailed and informative than when we were managed by a third party.

    There appears to be a group of unhappy residents.

    Though the rumor mill I heard they asked the board for things they did not receive. Hence a recall! I did not research this.

    The recall letter and ballot leave many unanswered ???

    The letter contained no explanations.

    Residents I called knew nothing about it.

    What I have learned came from on line searches.

    The restaurant matter has been a fiasco since day 1.

    Million dollar view but... why not find out what makes restaurants in other sun city communities like sun city grand in the Phoenix area work. If nothing will work, use area for something else and move on. The restaurant will never be a money maker for the HOA.

    Let's act like adults and allow the board and staff to professionally manage our multi-million dollar asset.

    If you don't care for the board, run in the next election. The American way.

    This recall is a waste of time and energy, has created many rumors and "smarts" at a group of people with just too much time on their hands & and a lack of knowledge about how to maintain and manage a multimillion dollar asset that most of us enjoy and recognize how our facilities and common areas positively affect the value of our home.
  2. Part One of Two

    John, it's impossible to address all of your comments, but in my estimation, in many cases, you seem to criticize certain elements of SCA, yet because he dues seems reasonable, everything else seems to be acceptable.

    Have you ever considered they could be lower if we were more efficient?

    I too have been here since 2005.

    First, there is no argument as to the dues. It is a moderate amount now, and there is no argument as to the need for repair and maintenance. 

    That's what dues are for.

    This entire recall is not about dues...now...it's about people and how they are governed, managed, and treated.

    Let's begin with the General Manager and members of her staff.

    Can you justify paying the following incomes:

    1. General Manager-----$270,000
    2. Community Association Manager...$105,000
    3. Facilities Director---$154,000
    4. CFO---$200,000
    5. Activities Director---$95,000

    Sun City Summerlin has 7,800 homes, 4 restaurants, and 3 golf courses. Their GM is paid $160,000.

    Sun City Anthem has 7,144 homes, no restaurant, and the golf courses are privately owned. We pay nothing.

    She was recruited by having provided her a private plane for her husband to fly her here, a $1000 dinner at Anthony's at the M Resort, and two days of interviewing there at a cost of over $1,100 when that could have and should have been done on our campus FREE of charge. Did you know we also paid $98 for a pot of coffee? All documented.

    Did you know that certain members of the Board were barred from the interview process?

    Are you a member of a club? Ask them how "life has changed" since the arrival of the new GM.
  3. Part Two of Two
    Do have any idea how entertainment is now affected? I suggest you contact an entertainer who would like to perform and the costs they now incur and the "strings" pulled to get a show. It would sicken you if you did. Ask the Clubs what they now have to go through to even put on a show for their members.

    Let's talk about the Liberty Center. CCRs state you cannot authorize a major lawsuit unless you have a sufficient number of residents who agree to proceed.

    No resident was given the opportunity in any way to dispute the merits of the lawsuit.

    A vote was taken, the sufficient total was not received, but this Board went forward with the suit anyway. As a result, any person selling a home must disclose that major litigation is pending. That will affect home sales and if you think Pulte will just lie down and pay, you are in for a big surprise.

    Now let's address some of the other actions of the Board.

    To my knowledge, there are now about a dozen formal complaints filed for actions that have violated Nevada law.

    Are you going to tell me that they had the right to remove a Board member without even allowing her the opportunity of a defense...a defense she is entitled to by law?

    Are you going to tell me this election isn't stacked with corruption in the manner it's been run? 

    There has never even been a formal announcement to the community a recall exists...until they got some deceptive letter in the mail from a CPA firm no one heard of that most tossed. You think that was an accident or collusion in order to anything possible to stack a deck.

    We are now $90,000 over budget in legal fees, and NONE OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE REMOVAL ELECTION.


    Restaurant? 

    Come on, do you favor losing $40,000 in loans...YOUR MONEY... due to the "professionals" you refer to not being smart enough to vet the loans? That's 5 restaurants now, John. All gone.

    ...and now, they want another one, this time they WANT TO have YOU finance it through additional dues payments?

    Have you ever known anyone who has used The Foundation Assisting Seniors? Do you prefer their space being vacated in order to have A BETTER DRESSING ROOM FOR ENTERTAINMENT?

    It's in the budget, John. Have you ever taken the time to read it?

    And the financial reports you believe are so accurate? 

    They have lacking SUBSTANTIAL information as to the manner in which they were prepared, the result of which will have to result in higher assessments to maintain financial solvency.

    I suggest you look closely at the backgrounds of those who complain.

    Most are EXPERIENCED and SUCCESSFUL business people whose knowledge is far superior to most; have legitimate concerns, and are NEVER APPROACHED for any kind of advice or guidance in financial matters.

    Last but not least, those people who you believe have too much time on their hands CARE about the financial future of their community.

    I have to ask you, what did you do for a living before you retired?

    Many of us would like to see your credentials in order to examine if you are in a position to criticize those whose backgrounds have substantial financial knowledge and years of experience.

    What amazes me most about your comments are the questions you have raised which essentially revolve around competence, yet you still maintain we have professionals doing the job...

    ...that a relatively low dues assessment justifies all the waste and manner in which people have been treated.
  1. I am becoming convinced that the HOA Directors fall into the same category as does their Blog Mouth Piece: People in Need of Psychological help.

Monday, October 16, 2017

Sun City Anthem Mah Jongg Club President Responds to Berman Article....Always More to a Berman Tale

Elizabeth Breier  is the President of the Sun City Anthem Mah Jongg Club.

Having been the subject of a recent article on the Berman blog, she has asked Anthem Opinions to publish her response to the deceptive piece he wrote about her apparently misunderstanding things...

...which evidently she DID understand after all !

Sun City Anthem Mah Jongg Club President
Responds to Berman Article
"I'm Standing Up for Liz Breier"

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"Someone sent me a message that David Berman posted on some blog.  
Here is my response:

My friends call me, text and email me and we go out for coffee and dinner. 

Mr. Berman, I have never done any of these things with Joan Roth although I have known her for 3 years. 

Joan Roth apparently, conveniently, has "friends" that are all Presidents of the Clubs for which she is liaison at CLC.

They were all on the same "vote no on the recall" email I received:

President of the Sewing & Quilting Club, Arts & Crafts Club, Chinese Heritage Club and the Spotlight Club.

(I can't help but wonder how often they have socialized with her).

I consider her email of Bob Goldfried's opinions to be a thinly veiled attempt to do the same thing that Danielle Bartle did with Forest Quinn's email back in July and while we are on that subject - what's your take on that Mr. Berman? 

Are you suggesting that Danielle is personal friends with every Club President in SCA?

Danielle made no disguise of telling EVERY Club President to send out Forrest Quinn's email to their Club Members and my "friend" Joan Roth would not even respond to me when I reached out to her and asked - what do I do with this directive from Danielle?

She waited for Pat Carrell to come back to town nearly a week later and give me a non-answer.

Based on your assessment, a friend is not what I perceive but what the sender perceives, so I perceive that every one of the nearly 400 members of the Mah Jongg Club are my friends. 

I see many of them every week and we attend social and mixer and holiday luncheons together.  

I email them on a regular basis, sending flyers and newsletters frequently and wishing them all Happy Birthday and healthy New Year. 

That is far more communication than I get from Joan. 

Based on your description and my assessment that they are my friends (who also happen to be members of the same Club I am in), I can email them MY opinion on the recall. 

You end your message with "just don't use your club's mailing list". 

I don't have to. 

I have my friends' emails stored in my email account - because they are my friends. 

If that happens to overlap the Club roster - what's going to happen? 

SCA won't let me be an Officer of a Club any longer - much the same way Danielle was removed from her position and Forrest from his?"
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Thanks to Mrs. Breier for sending her thoughts to Anthem Opinions.
  1. Just to confirm the latest criticism by David Berman....Anthem Opinions does NOT PRE-APPROVE any comments before posting them.

    We DO edit foul language, senseless name calling, and insulting commentary. In addition we also edit for spelling errors in order to avoid embarrassing those who comment.

    In addition, Mr. Berman, who craves attention from wherever he is able to obtain it, obviously believes commentary from those who refuse to use their names, have some form of validity. We refer to that as TRASH, UNRELIABLE, RUDE, and COWARDLY.

    Anthem Opinions believes that if you make a statement, you should be adult enough to place your name to it.

    Anthem Opinions also does not believe in writing private emails to readers seeking meetings with them. We respect the privacy of others and are most happy to speak or talk with them if THEY CONTACT US.

    Obviously, Mr. Berman is unable to comprehend such emails are nothing more than a feeling of self-importance, are unwelcomed by those who receive them, and in the greatest percentage of time, are looked at as "some nut" who invades others privacy, and needs an extra dose of his "happy pills".
  1. From Buddy Greenfield...to...Anthem Opinions

    Has David Berman now gone past the point of rationality?

    Why does he feel such a need to be so vicious? Can't his case be proven without such nastiness toward anyone who has tried to present an argument in an intelligent way?

    What does---who wrote what---or who paid for what have anything to do with the removal election?

    Those who favor removal haven't made any issue of it at all as to who was involved with OSCAR.

    The only thing that matters is that lots of people signed the petitions and that was enough to have a recall.

    What is more important other than the election results, is the manner in which the ballots were sent and the many acts of unethical behavior so many on committees have committed.

    Evidently Berman finds all of those acts an acceptable and ethical way to conduct such an important issue.

    Those acts should immediately call into question the character and tactics of any person who would justify the actions of those who oppose the removal.

    The saying "It's not if you win or lose, it's how you play the game" has opened many eyes, and certainly have not shown the opponents to be a fair and honorable group to employ such horrible methods.

    Who or what kind of person could look at the way the ballots were sent and not consider that being biased and unethical?

    If those who oppose the removal would have acted in a professional and unbiased manner, perhaps their case would have been better served. It at the very least would have shown them to be honorable and fair.

    I haven't seen anything unethical from the people who do want the recall to be successful.

    They have been up front, haven't sent a mass email or established any formal mail campaign, and have filed complaints with the Ombudsman for review of actions taken by a Board Treasurer, a Sun City Anthem employee, the removal of a Board member, and the way the entire election has been run, which has confused so many people.

    The pro-removal people have tried to present their case in an informative manner, where the opponents have reduced themselves to the worst in human behavior.

    What a shame.

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&
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Saturday, October 14, 2017

Ethics: Sun City Anthem Style

Sun City Anthem
Lifestyle Committee Chairman
Patricia Carrell
Joins List of Sending
Unethical Biased Emails
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It just doesn't stop...the interference from committees who have pledged to be neutral, yet have been shown to be guilty of bias in Sun City Anthem.

Have you noticed that almost all of those who oppose the Board Member Removal are coming from "the machine"...and from an overwhelming number of controlling political hacks who are a part of that "machine"?

It all started when a group of former members of the Sun City Anthem Board ...all of which were either designers or descendants of "the machine" and whose decisions were responsible for the worst in financial incompetence with continuous infusions of  WASTED RESIDENT FUNDS in restaurant after restaurant, Liberty Center negligence, and encouraging a self-management system engineered by a General Manager whose income of $270,000 plus benefits...

...sent out a letter to residents telling them how wonderful the governance of Sun City Anthem was under their direction.

Ah huh ! 

That was debunked step by step as to the accuracy of their boasts.

A few days ago, we uncovered emails sent from Vice Chairman Joan Roth and co-member of the Lifestyle Committee Robert Goldfried  to many in the Sun City Anthem community stating their opposition to the removal election.

Then... Election Committee member Linda Krivec sounded off calling residents supporting the removal IGNORANT.

Next up..the Lifestyle Committee...again..this time from Chairman, Patricia Carrell. 

She has now joined them in sending such emails (although in the guise of a "private resident"), yet makes sure it's known she has been associated with official committees.

Stated Carrell in her email:

"I will vote a strong NO on the recall ballot for the following reasons.
 
First, I have known and worked with all three of these individuals for several years, starting before they were elected to the Board of Directors. I worked with Tom Nissan, Rex Weddle and Aletta Waterhouse when we were all serving on various standing committees.

I have only the highest regard and respect for these community servants.
I know them to be people of integrity, intelligence and commitment to the good of SCA.  While some may disagree with some of the decisions they have made as BOD members, I believe they were exercising prudent judgment and had the good of the entire SCA community in mind.

Second, the charges against them have been vague and misleading.  Claims about secret BOD executive sessions, mismanagement of the relationship with the Foundation Assisting Seniors (FAS), not acting in a timely manner with respect to the restaurant space, violations of NRS and CC&Rs, are without substance.

Third, some of the changes that have come about through the
transition to self-management have uncovered legal requirements and insurance issues which the Association should have been following all along, but were not when we were under external management. 


Self-management has brought these failures to light.  As a result, management has instituted requirements that were previously not enforced and have caused some to over react and blame self-management, and hence the BOD. This has led the proponents of the recall to claim mismanagement of clubs and their activities with arbitrary and capricious changes.  The changes regarding business licenses and insurance requirements for clubs are definitely not arbitrary and capricious changes.
Finally, forcing a community to hold expensive and unnecessary recall elections is not the way to effect change in community leadership.

If anyone is so unhappy with the leadership of these BOD members, they can run for the BOD themselves and/or at the very least vote them out of office at the next regularly scheduled BOD elections."

Does that sound like a broken record or what ???

But of course, this action was approved by our association attorney...you know, the guy who made sure Nona Tobin was axed showing the "tender lovin' care" he's now become famous for exhibiting...


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So...we're all supposed to believe all this bias is somehow A-OK ?

We shall see about that !

Well now, in the minds of ETHICAL individuals, Patricia Carrell's "extracurricular  activity" was nothing more than a further attempt by a member of an Official Sun City Anthem committee, to continue the corrupt "machine" she was appointed by, and has been an active part of for years.

Looking at Carrell, she has been known to be rude and intrusive to many who attend Lifestyle Committee meetings, demonstrating total loyalty to those who were responsible for her appointment...

...previous Lifestyle Committee Chairman Rex Weddle and Aletta Waterhouse ...

...while making life miserable on a number of clubs demanding they march to her whims.


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Of course, this person, along with her committee which is STUFFED with "machine cronies", makes decisions that affect your lifestyle.

They are obviously "in the pocket" of those who who appointed them and support a General Manager's decisions, despite that woman incurring the wrath of 836 unit owners to sign petitions of "no confidence."

This...is your how a CORRUPT BOARD maintains a CORRUPT SYSTEM...

...appointing "their kind" to positions who have acted in a manner that maintains that CORRUPTION year in and year out...

...and leaves little doubt this woman, her committee, and so many appointed by the CORRUPT members of this and previous Boards, are nothing more than a  BUREAUCRATIC "MACHINE" that has been allowed to seep into the lives of those who arrived here in good faith, and now...through that lack of concern for their surroundings...

...continue to experience fewer freedoms, increasing demands from cronies on how to live their lives, and an expensive future of increased assessments which will undoubtedly will take place as a result of their continued incompetent guidance.

Now...this UNETHICAL group has been joined by Removal  "honoree"...Aletta Waterhouse.

This is now appearing in front of her home...an old campaign sign, the bottom of which is covered in gray electrical tape !

Is this an attempt to influence owners?  

Is this election interference?  

Another act of the OSCAR "machine" at work?

Or total desperation from a person who can't face people in person and relies on emails and signs to disguise her INCOMPETENCE?

Let's not forget SHE WAS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THE VOTE TO REMOVE NONA TOBIN as well.



What's next in the "Let's Justify Unethical Behavior" campaign?

A visit from....


...the only blogger spinning corrupt half-truth tales behind the wheel, suppressing full disclosure while supporting these UNETHICAL actions...

...along with OSCAR and his band of rancid "machine" wieners !

Isn't it rather strange that these BUREAUCRATS who support the system  "to the death" (and are an active part in it ) have NEVER made a single comment as to the manner in which the DECEPTIVE BALLOTS were sent to owners?

Of course not, only ETHICAL people with a CONSCIENCE desiring FAIR PLAY would !

If you have ETHICS...and a desire to maintain Sun City Anthem as a premier community where "political hacks" no longer have a place to promote their CORRUPTION and INEPT FINANCIAL DECISIONS...AT YOUR EXPENSE...

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  1. Well I am getting rather confused, which isn't too odd for an 84 year old man. After reviewing information from both blogs and talking with neighbor's I thought I had come to a decision about the recall. Then I read Dan Forgeron's posting on the David Berman blog and am back to square one. In case you haven't read it (and very well written):

    "I take personal offense to your comments about whether or not the books were cooked while I served SCA for almost 7 years on the finance committee and as a board member. They never were and I do not believe they are being “cooked” now. Favil and I believe there has not been a full presentation or comparison of the all-in transition costs.

    David you know FAS records are available for review. I am disappointed, but not surprised, you did not comment on the fact that I openly discussed FAS’ financials and provided information to both Carl Weinstein and you when asked. During and after our negotiations with SCA I publicly offered in open board meetings board members the opportunity to review our financial records. Except for Weinstein not a single board member or the GM requested a review."

    FAS financial statements are audited each year by our CPA, just like SCA. We have received clean opinions each and every year, just like SCA. Each month the monthly financials are reviewed and discussed with the trustees, just like SCA.

    Favil’s comments did not suggest the “books were cooked”. He was suggesting that the total disclosure of the cost of transition from managed to self-managed and ongoing costs have not been presented. I have been reviewing the reports and statements provided in the monthly board books and, to my understanding, have only seen payroll costs comparisons. This was only presented, I believe, after serious questions were being raised about the EXCESSIVE compensation package provided the GM and her senior staff.

    FSR management costs included in their monthly fee all accounting services (financial systems, payables, deposits, receivable follow-up, etc.), human resources, personnel recruitment and training, board training on NRS, workers compensation and employment practices insurance, computer services and project management. Did I miss any fully detailed report and projection comparisons? Example how much does the ongoing CS4U (computer services) costs? Are/were there account package software or outside service costs? What are the added costs for workers compensation and employment practices insurance?

    FAS has taken no position one on the removal election. Just as you have previously written about SCA committee members, as individual members of the SCA community FAS trustees are free to express their personal views on the recall issues. Favil, as do I, has the right to express his personal beliefs. I believe you have reviewed the entire list of those signing the petitions. If you are “fair and balanced” on reporting the facts, you should have reported the names of former SCA directors and or other community leaders that signed the recall and vote of no confidence petitions: such as, Favil West, Dan Forgeron, Jim Mayfield, Bob Berman, Kay Dwyer, and John Waterhouse. You should also note the absence of a position by many former SCA directors."


    [My nephew had to show me how to post this in two parts since it was too long. At my age learning this stuff is a major hurdle. Part two follows. - Jack]
  2. [My nephew had to show me how to post this in two parts since it was too long. At my age learning this stuff is a major hurdle. Part two of Dan Forgeron’s post. - Jack]. To Further Forgeron's comment:

    "The removal, in my opinion, is not about or driven by FAS. It is not against self-management. Rather it is about changes in the culture of the SCA community and manner in which this and the previous board and GM manage the organization in a manner that does not recognizes the equal status of all directors, as mandated by Nevada laws. SCA had processes and committees in place that provided forums for community input before decisions were made. We were inclusive not exclusive. The removal is for the way self-management has been implement and has limited openness and did not establish SCA board processes to hold the GM accountable - public accountability, performance assessment and compliance with Nevada laws. Therefore, I signed the petitions and support the removal petitions for the following reasons:

    I signed the recall petition of Board Members for: violations of NRS 116; holding secret meetings and making decisions in private and without all board members present, preventing open nominations of SCA officers at the May 2017 organizational meeting by not allowing other nominations to be considered for the president position (decision made before the meeting), marginalizing other Board members input and comments (most recently exemplified by the actions taken to remove Nona Tobin without ANY hearing), eliminating open board book review and certain Committees preventing/limiting Member participation on matters relative to capital projects & fitness facilities and other matters before the Board, improper oversight and preparations of SCA budgets and reserve study, allowing the President, Treasurer and General Manager to make unilateral decisions without full Board input or votes, and allowing the General Manager to make purchasing decisions (for example, researching, obtaining quotes for and recommending the medical insurance package from which she directly benefited) and unilateral decisions that negatively impacted the club activities and Members in general, entering into litigations without the required member approval, and lastly for allowing interference with the May 2017 election by allowing disclosure of election results before the prescribed meeting. This last violation was reported by you on this blog when the submission of invalid ballets was disclosed and a call for those who may have filed them to obtain replacement ballots (vote twice). Again, this point is again highlighted by the manner in which the recall election is being handled. In fact one director has publicly apologized for this. By the way, I believe, the Solera recall cost $8,000+-

    I signed the vote of no confidence for the GM, which I have not seen mentioned (other than salary) or discussed, for violations of NAC 116; mishandling the May 2017 Board of Director elections by allowing the opening the ballet boxes and reporting on election results during the voting period (results reported on this blog), failure to provide in a timely manner member’s documents requests as required by law, making unilateral decisions negatively impacting SCA clubs, fitness classes and life style without Member input or participation, and finally for not complying with an April 2016 board resolution to have prepared and provide a lease for signature by the SCA president pursuant to the terms accepted by the board.

    I would ask that all the personal attacks and innuendos STOP. There are valid reasons people support the recall. Discuss the facts and your beliefs but don’t snipe or demean those who have differing opinions."
    1. From Elizabeth Breier...President of Sun City Anthem Mah Jongg Club...to...Anthem Opinions

      Part One of Two

      The Community LifestyleCommittee (CLC) “takes off” the month of July. This Committee is supposed to have a monthly workshop (which is the one time that the public can come address them if there are “issues ​"​with the Clubs) and then they have their monthly meeting when they meet and make their decisions based on issues raised at workshops. They will cancel the workshop “for unforeseen circumstances” then move the workshop to the same day as their meeting, causing anyone who might have planned on addressing them to juggle their own personal schedules. They also remove items from their workshop agendas less than 24 hours before a meeting, again causing residents to wait an entire month to address the Committee regarding an issue that might be effecting their Club. ​For that matter, ​I rarely, if ever, have attended a workshop when I can say that every member of the Committee was even present, leaving me to wonder how they make decisions on their vote when they meet in private the week after the workshop ​ ​- I guess they rely on the input of their fellow Committee members and do as they are told ​.
      BTW / I don’t know of a Club Board that takes a monthly hiatus. The Clubs operate 12 months and their Board is therefore responsible year round. To have the entire Committee take off a month and then come back and cancel the very next workshop indicates to me that this is not run with efficiency. 
      All this attempt to influence ​ the recall from a Committee that makes a BIG DEAL about Clubs being oh so careful about not using our rosters for anything but Club business- see ​the CCGR 4.9 "COMMUNICATING WITH CLUB MEMBERS:
      B. If the club collects and uses email addresses of its members, these email addresses may only be used for the business of the club as determined by the club’s officers. When communicating by email to the membership, the individual email addresses must be shielded by using the blind-copy option (bcc) on sending emails. A club's membership roster may only be used by the club for club purposes, and must not be shared with or distributed to anyone for any purpose other than furthering the activities of the club. 

      C. A club should desist from asking other clubs to promote the business of a club or service group that does not fall within the business of the other clubs. Club officers and club members must not promote their individual non-club business interests to club members (e.g., selling life insurance or annuities).
    2. From Elizabeth Breier...President of Sun City Anthem Mah Jongg Club...to...Anthem Opinions

      Part Two of Two

      It is interesting that when the CLC Members ask the Club Presidents to "share" their emails regarding the recall election, they are apparently considering that the officers of the Club's should determine those to be "club business." That is quite the stretch and if that were so, I can only be left to wonder if club officers determined that emails to vote YES were also shared would they be deemed "club business", or would the Club officers be ridiculed? I can't help but wonder how members of the CLC believe that promoting a particular vote on the recall does not violate their own rule to "desist from asking clubs to promote the business of a club or service group". To me it is blatantly asking club officers to promote their individual non-club business interests. I suppose their argument can me made that the make-up of the BOD directly or indirectly effects the Clubs and to this one could agree, but then they should provide articles promoting both a YES and NO vote on the election if they really were honest about that argument for "sharing" opinions with Club members, but alas, only one-sided emails have been sent our way.

      I would have far more respect for the CLC members if they urged Club Officers to remain neutral and not try to influence the recall in any way. The Clubs are for the quiet enjoyment of their various activities and SHAME ON THE CLC Members for using their positions to try to get the Club Officers to promote one agenda over another. Any of those CLC Members that have abused their position should immediately apologize and resign.
      1. From Elizabeth Breier...President of the Sun City Anthem Mah Jongg Club...to...Anthem Opinions

        When I got an email from Danielle Bartle in July, in which she forwarded the infamous email from Forest Quinn, I immediately reached out to my Club's CLC liaison, Joan Roth and the CLC Chairperson, Pat Carrell. 

        When Pat returned from her vacation she said "...it is not appropriate for CLC as a committee to take action on the activities of individual SCA residents.". (Since when is Danielle an SCA resident)?

        So I guess all the emails the clubs are now being asked to "share" are not coming from the CLC "as a Committee, but rather from the "individual members". 

        Then, why, one might ask, are we being asked to "share" them with our members and why are the CLC Members sending them to the Club Presidents?​

        I reached out to Pat Carrell and Joan Roth on July 6 and it took until July 11 to get a response - or non-response, which provided me no guidance as a Club President as to how to handle the directive from the Activities Dept. 

        When I expressed that I was no clearer based on her response, I was advised that I should provide evidence of Club's violating the CC&R by using their Club's email for non-Club business. 

        The fact that we were being told to do so by the Activities Dept didn't seem to bother Pat in the least. 

        Since then I have received emails from CLC members, directing me and other club Presidents to disseminate information that we should "share" on which way to vote on the recall election. 

        I can only interpret this as falling within Pat's interpretation of coming from "individual members" and seeing no correlation to the Committee. I am not so naive.

        The full text of Pat's first and second email are below:

        "Elizabeth,
        I have been out of the country and blissfully away from email for the past 2 weeks,although aware of what was going on.

        CLC's silence should not be taken either as support for or lack of concern about the activities of some who would throw the community into turmoil.

        While we may have our individual views, and may be taking action as individual SCA residents, it is not appropriate for CLC as a committee to take action on the activities of individual SCA residents.

        Just as the BOD and the other committees, some of which are in better positions than CLC to judge the merits or demerits of the arguments, have not spoken as oganizational entities.)

        Pat
        "


        Elizabeth,
        If you have evidence that clubs are violating the CC&Rs by sending out emails to club members that are not club business, I will take that issue up with CLC.

        Please provide me with whatever evidence you have for specific clubs.

        Please note that section 4.9 B states that the club email addresses may only be used for the business of the club as determined by the club's officers.

        Pat
        "