Discarded Sun City
Anthem Board Member
Nona
Tobin
Speaks Out in Newest Community Blog
(Part Two of Two)
Speaks Out in Newest Community Blog
(Part Two of Two)
I think this flagrant disregard for treating a duly elected member of the Board with common decency is another reason owners should vote these Directors out.
They are simply not being fair and taking care of the interests of owners.
They are willing to go to extreme lengths to prevent a dissident voice from being heard—even breaking the law.
This simply should not be tolerated until the next election.
“Indeed, the overwhelming bulk of the allegations against the board members seem to me to be emotional in nature, phrased in vague language, with no examples given or facts cited in support.”
If you want specific
examples, I’ll post my notices of intent to complain (which were used in a gross
convoluted gerrymander as the basis for saying I was putting matters before the
board to make a profit), and I’ll post other documentation of improper conduct
on my new website www.scastrong.com.
I started the website in an attempt to restore my reputation from damages caused by the atrocious lies that have been said about me in the process of kicking me off the board.
I started the website in an attempt to restore my reputation from damages caused by the atrocious lies that have been said about me in the process of kicking me off the board.
“What the allegations reveal to me is that there are some people who live in Sun City Anthem who simply disagree with decisions made by some board members, or who simply do not like some board members. I don’t agree with all of the decisions made by the board. But, in my view, that is simply an insufficient basis to overturn the results of free and fair elections, results that the supporters of recall are apparently unable to achieve through the election process.”
Again, this is a cogent
argument for reversing my unlawful removal, but it is not a good argument
against having a removal election called for by over 10% of owners.
Although the law does not
require that directors only be removed for cause, it does require that 10% of
the owners call for a removal election.
Then, it requires that 35% of owners vote in favor of removing the named Directors AND that the majority of those who actually vote must be in favor of removing them.
The law provides for an alternative to the annual elections, but is designed to make it very difficult.
Then, it requires that 35% of owners vote in favor of removing the named Directors AND that the majority of those who actually vote must be in favor of removing them.
The law provides for an alternative to the annual elections, but is designed to make it very difficult.
Doesn’t it seem incongruous that the same Board members who are
protected by these very stringent legal requirements from being removed from the
Board for frivolous reasons thought it was within their authority to issue an
edict that remove one of the Directors without regard of this law by six of them
simply voting in secret to declare it?
I think the petitioners
called for the removal election for reasons much more substantial than just
disagreeing with a few Board decisions.
I think the reason so many people want a removal election of Rex, Aletta, Tom and Bob is because they are not doing a good job at ensuring that all of the people here are treated equally and fairly, and they are very dismissive of community complaints without taking appropriate action.
I think the reason so many people want a removal election of Rex, Aletta, Tom and Bob is because they are not doing a good job at ensuring that all of the people here are treated equally and fairly, and they are very dismissive of community complaints without taking appropriate action.
None of these four
Directors even acknowledged that that there might be a slight possibility that
they personally needed to show some leadership to correct the management
problems and policy deficiencies identified by the petitioners. To just blow the
petitioners off as whiners and complainers and do nothing about the issues they
raised is not treating owners fairly. Then, to berate them for NOT wanting to
wait until the next election to get new Board members (that will be more
responsive to the owners’ needs) just exacerbates the
problem.
Over 800 owners signed
petitions to remove four directors who, in the view of at least those 800
people, have a very strong bias against listening to people and against
meaningful owner involvement in governance.
But the biggest issue which has been glossed over is that many people want these directors out because they have a big blind spot when it comes to the General Manager, Sandy Seddon.
Nobody is complaining about how well she handled the deferred maintenance, but many, many people are dissatisfied with the way they are being treated and the Association is being managed.
But the biggest issue which has been glossed over is that many people want these directors out because they have a big blind spot when it comes to the General Manager, Sandy Seddon.
Nobody is complaining about how well she handled the deferred maintenance, but many, many people are dissatisfied with the way they are being treated and the Association is being managed.
At the last Board meeting
while the budget was being discussed, the board spent most of their discussion
congratulating themselves and absolutely gushing over how pleased they were that
Sandy answered all their questions—unlike the former management company that
kept proprietary secrets.
I would love her too, and so would all the petition signers, if she treated all of us homeowners like she treats the board members she likes.
I would love her too, and so would all the petition signers, if she treated all of us homeowners like she treats the board members she likes.
“But, in my view, that is simply an insufficient basis to overturn the results of free and fair elections, results that the supporters of recall are apparently unable to achieve through the election process.”
In this case, there is cause to justify removal of these directors without waiting for the next regular election.
The causes cited in those petitions are really big problems to the 800+ people who signed them and those people’s concerns have been ignored, marginalized or insulted by the Directors they want removed.
“A successful recall election could be expected to chill the willingness of qualified residents to serve on committees and boards. Why would anyone want to do so, knowing that they will be subject to personal attacks and vilification? Would you want to serve under such conditions? People who serve on the board and on SCA committees are our neighbors, and in some cases our friends. They are all volunteers. They freely devote substantial amounts of their time to our community.”
On the other hand, I worry
a great deal about the problems that are perpetuated because this Board has a
strong culture against utilizing the expertise of owners and for attacking
people who try to bring forward suggestions for improvements or better
management or governance practices.
These are the things that I think chill the willingness of qualified residents to serve.
These are the things that I think chill the willingness of qualified residents to serve.
The way I was treated as a
Board member was horrible, but it was covered up and glossed over so you and the
community don’t know a fraction of what happened behind the
scenes.
Even still, there are people who have told me that they would never go on the Board because it is so dysfunctional and abusive to anyone who tries to stick up for the little guy.
Even still, there are people who have told me that they would never go on the Board because it is so dysfunctional and abusive to anyone who tries to stick up for the little guy.
“I believe that they act in what they honestly believe are the best interests of the SCA community, as a whole.”
Don’t you think if
hundreds of people started collecting signatures to remove you, that you would
try to find out what their problems were and work with them to try to solve
them?
That’s not what these directors did.
They did not treat the petitioners as having any value.
They did not treat the problems the petitioners defined as even being worth their notice or any response.
They attacked the messengers and called them “CAVE people,” never once responding to a single issue raised on its merits.
The Board never answered, but they had a full defense mounted by blogger David Berman whose campaign against the removal election has been to discredit the people who raised the concerns and to reject the need for the Directors facing recall to take any personal responsibility for corrective action.
That’s not what these directors did.
They did not treat the petitioners as having any value.
They did not treat the problems the petitioners defined as even being worth their notice or any response.
They attacked the messengers and called them “CAVE people,” never once responding to a single issue raised on its merits.
The Board never answered, but they had a full defense mounted by blogger David Berman whose campaign against the removal election has been to discredit the people who raised the concerns and to reject the need for the Directors facing recall to take any personal responsibility for corrective action.
“I have seen no evidence to suggest otherwise. Are they perfect human beings, incapable of making a mistake on an issue? No more or less than any of us. Why then are they being portrayed in such an abusive manner?”
You want
specifics.
Here are a few.
These Board members have taken multiple illegal and unfair actions. For example,
Here are a few.
These Board members have taken multiple illegal and unfair actions. For example,
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They unlawfully over-delegated to management control over Board functions such as the budget and banking (By-laws 3.20; 3.18 a, b, e, f, g, i)
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Making decisions in secret meetings, (NRS 116.31085; By-Laws 3.15A)
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Refusing to create an adequate policy framework to protect SCA as a first-time employer;
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Failing to ensure the official record was complete and uncorrupted,
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Allowing the restaurant to be closed indefinitely (CC&Rs 7.2 (b) and 7.9)
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They violated By-Laws 6.4(c) to prevent my access to ANY association records because they did not want me to make inquiries into the GM’s compensation.
They also refused to treat
me like an equal director during my entire term of office primarily because I
expressed strong opposition to the practices mentioned above and unlawfully
excluded me from board meetings wherein they took action against me and the
Foundation Assisting Seniors.
The ruse used to “deem my
position vacant” was that I had put matters before the Board for personal
gain.
I will post a list of the matters I put before the Board on my website, and you will see for yourself that there is no way their pretext for removing me has any merit whatsoever.
I will post a list of the matters I put before the Board on my website, and you will see for yourself that there is no way their pretext for removing me has any merit whatsoever.
Forgive me if I am not
sympathetic to how unfairly they think they are being treated by people who are
calling for a legal removal election.
“A successful recall would also likely have a negative effect on all of our property values, since potential buyers who research SCA on the internet will become aware of the turmoil and instability that a successful recall would no doubt generate. Would you want to buy a house in such a community? I wouldn’t.”
The
real question is—do you want to live in a community where the Board takes the
law into their own hands and disregards the legitimate vote of the homeowners as
this Board did when they removed me?
This letter and the
on-line postings against the recall election are part of a huge effort to defend
a Board that does not hold itself accountable for obeying the
law?
I ask you—why aren’t those
that oppose the recall on principle, making an equally strong objection to the
arbitrary removal of a duly-elected Director without any petition or removal
election or owner vote whatsoever?
“If you believe, as I do, that the recall should be defeated, I urge you to cast your vote promptly, by carefully following the instructions you will receive along with the ballot.”
Mr. Goldfried has every
right to send out his letter in opposition to the election recall. However, the
Board and management’s interference in the process is another
matter.
I have submitted several complaints regarding interference with the removal election process which are currently being investigated by Christina Pitch of the NRED HOA Investigations Unit. The most recent issue has been the General Manager’s refusal to post in the online Board Book the Update on the Removal Election because (according to her) it was only supposed to be an oral report.
I have submitted several complaints regarding interference with the removal election process which are currently being investigated by Christina Pitch of the NRED HOA Investigations Unit. The most recent issue has been the General Manager’s refusal to post in the online Board Book the Update on the Removal Election because (according to her) it was only supposed to be an oral report.
“We cannot take the chance that the recall might succeed. I view it as vital to the continuing well being of SCA to defeat the recall, and to do so resoundingly. A successful recall would set a dangerous precedent for our community.”
Don’t you think that the
actions six directors as outlined above and the secret voting to remove a
director they don’t like, is a much more dangerous
precedent?
“We would then be likely to see recall elections after every board election, because no one candidate is going to satisfy everyone all of the time. Chaos would result. That doesn’t make for a community that I, for one, would want to continue to live in. Would you?”
That last paragraph is
riddled with hyperbole.
We currently have a blatantly egregious Board of Directors that has stirred up 800+ community residents to the point that recall petitions were circulated against four of the seven members.
You might call this, “The Perfect Storm” and something that has never before happened in this community.
I would hope not to see the need for another recall election in the near future and certainly not four members at once.
To move people to “chaos” takes more than the simple fact of not having their favorite candidate win an election.
And with a seven-member board, one bad actor on the Board would not likely cause an uproar because that person would likely be out voted by the good members of the board on most issues..
We currently have a blatantly egregious Board of Directors that has stirred up 800+ community residents to the point that recall petitions were circulated against four of the seven members.
You might call this, “The Perfect Storm” and something that has never before happened in this community.
I would hope not to see the need for another recall election in the near future and certainly not four members at once.
To move people to “chaos” takes more than the simple fact of not having their favorite candidate win an election.
And with a seven-member board, one bad actor on the Board would not likely cause an uproar because that person would likely be out voted by the good members of the board on most issues..
The fact that there is a
recall method specified in NRS 116 and the By-Laws and that the owners do take
an active role in maintaining the community is a very positive selling point for
future residents.
“If you are unsure how you are going to vote, or if you support the recall effort, and there are any questions that you have about it, please do not hesitate to contact me. I may be able to provide you with facts that you don’t already have. I would welcome the opportunity to at least discuss the issues with you.”
Please look at both sides
of this issue and be sure to look at www.SCAstrong.com where I will post the
actual documents and evidence to support what I have outlined above and
more.
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Anthem Opinions sends its best wishes to Nona Tobin and welcomes "SCA Strong" to the Sun City Anthem Community
Anthem Opinions sends its best wishes to Nona Tobin and welcomes "SCA Strong" to the Sun City Anthem Community
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